Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
In this week's first discussion thread we will be discussing assumptions. In the text, on page 145, Mayfield discusses "Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning." In the first part of this response, explains what she means by hidden assumptions and stereotypes. Then click the title, and read the article by Grant Hill. In the second part, identify the assumptions and stereotypes that Hill claims Rose made. Why is this problematic? What assumptions does Hill make, if any?
This post will close by Wednesday night.
Thanks,
Ms. Wanzo
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Everyone has hidden assumptions and stereotypes filed in the back of our minds. Hidden assumptions are things that we assume are one thing because of what we have been told or we have learned, and are ultimately not exactly what we think. Stereotypes are general terms that people are categorized with. Those categories are usually the few amongst the many, and not how most people in those stereotypes generally are, but we take the stereotypes as gospel and assume that the many are actually the few.
We tend to file things too quickly, without looking at the whole picture. We tend to stop in our tracks in order to protect ourselves from whatever we deem too invasive, too elaborate, or sometimes too good for us. A lot of times we cut ourselves off at the foot for doing just that, especially when we think that whatever it is; is too good for us We are not supposed to simplify our lives into black and white when there are so many shades of grey. We need to look a little deeper and not take assumptions at face value because things are not always as they seem.
Grant Hill’s response to Rose was enlightening. I wish that more people openly attacked the old way of thinking as he did. He eloquently described why the phrase “uncle tom” was used in a derogatory way from one black person to another. It was a put-down in Hill’s eyes and he wasn’t going to stand for one black person putting down the accomplishments of another. Even if Jalen Rose’s comments were correct and Duke did only recruit “uncle tom’s”, those “uncle toms” weren’t given anything, they had to work just as hard for their education as anyone else had to work otherwise. Everybody mentioned in the article, especially the “fab five” came from humble beginnings and sacrificed to get where they and their children are. How can anyone put that down? This is problematic because one culture is being attacked within itself, adding to the confusion and stereotypes that are being enlisted in people’s heads. Does “black on black crime” mean anything, or how about the assumption that black people can’t get along within their own communities or with each other. The comments from Jalen Rose are reinforcing just that; assumptions and stereotypes.
Based on the reading, on page 145, Mayfield talked about “Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning.” Mayfield in that section explains what Hidden Assumption and stereotypes are. She first explains that hidden assumptions are what human beings strongly believe in general, not in a critical way. Then, she explains stereotypes are the quick assumption that people think is true mentally. Actually, stereotype is one form of hidden assumption. Mayfield gives some examples, which is called hidden stereotypical assumption, to explain its actual meaning. One of the examples is diamonds, “If you love her, you’ll give her diamonds.” Everyone believes that a diamond represents one’s love, and the sentence assumes that someone does not give a diamond to his or her love one, do not show the love. Another example is “Given students a failing grade will damage their self-confidence. Therefore, we should not fail students.” This sentence shows a hidden assumption that we should not damage students’ self-confidence. It is a belief from one in general.
In the article “Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose,” Hill uses several assumptions when he claims what Rose comments. First, Hill says “At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way.” This is a value assumption which is a basic unexamined belief that unconsciously influences his thinking. Second, Hill mentions “We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them.” This is another value assumption that all black Americans aspire for providing the better education to their next generation. Besides this, Hill also uses stereotypical assumptions when he mentions “I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger.” As the reading on page 145, stereotypes are first quick and general assumptions about life. What Hill talks about is that the assumption from his five friends who think that their success adjust and adapt to the decisions they made and the best of them. Their assumption cannot determine other’s choice.
Feel free to correct me if I get any mistake.
Thanks,
Ms. Wanzo
Hello Andrew,
Your response is very well written. Your examples of Mayfield's meaning of hidden assumptions are very good. You've done well here. You have also done well identifying the assumptions that Hill makes. But what assumption does Rose make about Hill? You may have to do some research. Or just read closely Hill's comments. What assumptions does Rose make?
Hello Jenn,
I am a little confused by your response. On the one hand you praise Hill for attacking the Rose incident and challenging the stereotypical barriers that are "self-inflicted." You state that everyone comes from humble beginnings but that is not true. Hill does not. How does this difference influence the way that each sees the other? How does this difference lend itself to the assumptions each player makes about the other?
Ms. Wanzo
From reading what Mayfield wrote, I believe that she means hidden assumptions are mostly based on stereotypes. Like the way Mayfield has putted out that if someone looks sincere, he or she can be a good candidate for a mayor. The stereotype making a good mayor must be sincere, honest. The hidden assumption is whether the sincerely is deluded or actual sincerity, or just a way to run for office. The assumptions and stereotypes that Grant Hill claims is that Rose made was based on the stereotype black men with white behavior or manner, such called as “Uncle Toms.” Grants assumption was that Rose claimed that Duke only recruited black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.” Since Grant Hill was a player on the Duke team, Rose’s then claim that Grant Hill is an “Uncle Toms” player. It is problematic because of the stereotype that black people who become this, assimilative into this culture may seem as neglecting his or her origin, that’s the hidden stereotypical assumption. One that can cause people to believe as an influence where one of the same race is against another. The assumption Grant Hill made when Rose apologizes to him on his twitter, assuming he is stating “Uncle Toms” as one who has two parents that are middle class. From Grant may see that what Rose believe today, hidden assumption if that is Rose’s true belief or not.
To regards to Mayfield discussion on identifying hidden assumptions, and stereotypes. Apparently, the ideas of hidden assumptions are statements made by people who observed situations, and can speak from experience. For example, the question is, to catch the fish you need bait. To come to this conclusion; trials and research had to take place in order for the truth to be revealed. Mayfield’s, explanation on stereotypes; certain place, people, and things are assumed being true, based on observation, and nothing else. For example, he is a good candidate for mayor, because he looks sincere. In addition, if you love her, you’ll give her diamonds, and he’s only a teen and he’s driving that expensive car, he must be selling drugs! Basically, for most people their thoughts, feelings, and opinions; our based on the size, and price of a gift, how a person looks, and what they own! Unfortunately, without merit many of these examples are giving on a daily basis, and until we find the truth, we will never give up stereotyping!
The assumptions, and stereotypes that Mr. Hill claims Mr. Rose made. The Assumptions were disparaging Hills parents for their education, work ethic, and commitment to each other, and him. Furthermore, the hints that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not. As for the stereotype claims, well first off being called a Uncle tom, and two – parent coming from a middle- class family. Indeed, this is problematic, envy embraces every ethnicity, and some in these groups have the similar thought process as Mr. Rose did. Take for example, a few upper class Caucasians who stereotype lower class Caucasians as simply poor white trash! Therefore, there is no excuse for stereotyping, and having negative hidden assumptions with not only our peers, but with strangers in general. Seek the truth and use some common sense before you labeling some one!
Finally, Hills assumptions, expected to use their education to help others, and make the world a better place! Furthermore, caution Rose to avoid stereotyping others!
Thank you,
Francisco Santos
In Mayfield’s article, she explains “Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning.” First, Mayfield explains what hidden assumptions are. Hidden assumptions are something that is based on people’s own judgments; it doesn’t include any evidence or deeply thinking. Mayfield continues to explain stereotypes. Stereotypes are the judgment of people by their quickly decision about life and are also something that they think must be true by the knowledge they based known. Besides these two expiations, Mayfield gives some examples to make us easy to understand. One of these examples is “If you live her, you’ll give her diamonds.” People believe that diamonds represent love, but in that sentence, it assumes that someone doesn’t give a diamond to his or her lover means it does not symbolize love. In the article, “Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose”, Hill represents many assumptions such as “At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a culture phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way.” In this sentence, Hill gives his first sense of thinking on Fab Five without deeply examination. In addition, the word “Uncle Toms” also represents assumption. “Uncle Toms” has negative meaning to describe black people, but Jalen changes the vitriolic meaning of the word to blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. It is such a thoughtful transformation.
In the section “Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning,” Mayfield talked about hidden assumptions and stereotypes. When she says hidden assumptions, she means the “unspoken, unproven ideas” within a statement. It is an idea or perception that may ring true to a person from past experiences or emotions. For example, there is a statement that states that “If your friend is Japanese, she must be moody.” From prior experiences, a person may meet several Japanese people who are moody to him/her. So to that person, he/she made a idea that is true to him/her. Mayfield also goes on to talk about stereotypes, which she says are “hasty generalizations about life that are assumed to be true and are placed in a mental file for further use.” By this she means that it is a quick judgment that people use about a person, place, or thing. They build up these assumptions in their mind to help them perceive things.
In the article response to Rose, Grant Hill claims Rose made assumptions that all black players at Duke are “Uncle Toms.” This was an insult to him to because of the underlying history of the term “Uncle Tom.” He came from a family who cherish education and for these assumptions to be made offended his family and his teammates at Duke. This is problematic because he his childhood friend who is in “The Fab Five” should understand where he was coming from. It made everyone look bad.
Hill also made his own assumptions. He said that black Americans seek the best or better for their children. Not all African Americans, as well as many other races, follow this ideology. This can be seen in many unfortunate children. Grant Hill, however, was fortunate.
Critical thinking always needs people to think about why and how. Only based on this processing, they are able to make more logical ideas and assumptions and identify whether a statement is true or not. In the first statement, the hidden assumption made is that all Japanese are moody. This is too sweeping. However, some Japanese and “She” may be moody, but it’s just hasty to say that “She” is moody because she is Japanese, and in fact there is no necessary connection between “Japanese” and “Moody”. Therefore, after we do reasoning, we can tell if a hidden assumption is true.
After all, what Mayfield means in the text is, before accepting or rejecting a statement which contains hidden assumptions, we need to do reasoning and thinking critically for its identification.
Hill responds to Rose’s comment that Duke recruited only black players that was “Uncle Toms”. By the way, according to the definition from Wikipedia, “Uncle Tom” is a term for a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people. It carries a kind of negative connotation. The assumption Rose made here is that Duke hired black people because they were all subservient. It’s problematic because the term insults black people’s ability and culture, and there is no admiration. On the other hand, the assumption Hill make is, because most of black players at Duke contribute to tradition of excellence on the court, they do well in the team. That’s to say, they were hired not because they were “Uncle Toms”, but they have talent in playing basketball. In the end, he claims that to avoid stereotyping others is the way to keep their harmonious relationships.
Hi David,
I really enjoy reading your response. I agree with what you explain in the book example of "If your friend is Japanese, she must be moody." I think it is easier sentences for us to understand the concept.
In your second paragraph, I still not quite understand what you mention. At least, for me, it is a hard part to understand. I think you understand that point well.
Thanks,
Andrew
Critical thinking always needs people to think about why and how. Only based on this processing, they are able to make more logical ideas and assumptions and identify whether a statement is true or not. In the first statement, the hidden assumption made is that all Japanese are moody. This is too sweeping. However, some Japanese and “She” may be moody, but it’s just hasty to say that “She” is moody because she is Japanese, and in fact there is no necessary connection between “Japanese” and “Moody”. Therefore, after we do reasoning, we can tell if a hidden assumption is true.
After all, what Mayfield means in the text is, before accepting or rejecting a statement which contains hidden assumptions, we need to do reasoning and thinking critically for its identification.
Hill responds to Rose’s comment that Duke recruited only black players that was “Uncle Toms”. By the way, according to the definition from Wikipedia, “Uncle Tom” is a term for a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people. It carries a kind of negative connotation. The assumption Rose made here is that Duke hired black people because they were all subservient. It’s problematic because the term insults black people’s ability and culture, and there is no admiration. On the other hand, the assumption Hill make is, because most of black players at Duke contribute to tradition of excellence on the court, they do well in the team. That’s to say, they were hired not because they were “Uncle Toms”, but they have talent in playing basketball. In the end, he claims that to avoid stereotyping others is the way to keep their harmonious relationships.
Hi Micheal Huynh:
Great response, and i agree with you on how assimilative some people are to there culture. Honestly, most people views, and opinions are effected, because the way others interpret their origins as well.
thanks,
Francisco
Hello Michael H.
Your response is very well written. You have a good understanding of what Mayfield is getting at in her text. This is also reflected in your evaluation of the Hill text. As you point out, hidden evaluations can be problematic because at their core they are very presumptive. What ways can society take to avoid making such assumptions?
Rose make a assumption that
all African Americans “Black players" were "Uncle Toms, " which is disparaging his parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me.
Guys, any ideas? Is that right?
Thanks,
Ms. Wanzo
In "Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning", Mayfied discusses the hidden assumptions and stereotypes.This two terms are very similar. From my comprehension, hidden assumptions are what you believe from your conclusion of experience. The stereotypes are base on hidden assumptions.Mayfield said "stereotyoes are hasty generalizations about life that are assumed to be true and are placed in a mental file for further use". It is what you believe after you heard the hidden assumptions. I am taking a Asian American film in this semester, the instrutor are talking about the stereotypes of Asian Americans are fool, sexy and funny, etc. Because the charaters in the movie are representing this kind of Asian people, that makes the stereotypes of them.
In the article by Gran Hill,the stereotypes that he claims Rose made is Rose said the black player at Duke are "Uncle Toms", who are need to work very hard and low educated, such as the slaves.It is problematic becuause it seems the discrimination. So Hill gives out a few example of his family, how the black people success in his family, they are not as bad as the people think. The stereotype that Hills give out is "thise who grew uo in a household with a mother and fater are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous".
I liked the way you response. It was to the point and easy to understand. I didn't notice that Hill made the assumption that the Fab Five was a "cultural phenomenon” until you bought it up. It slipped past me. It made me understand what an assumption is much more.
Hi Francisco!
You really give out a good point of hidden assumptions and stereotypes. And i agree you until we find the truth, we will never give up stereotyping. We are having stereotype everyday. After we listen what people say, they make us believe something, even we didn't know many about it and it is positive or negative.
According to Mayfield stereotypes are hasty generalizations that are assumed to be true so they are stored into a person’s mind for the future. Stereotypes are the opinions that people form from the environment they were born into. If we believe hidden assumptions then we are not thinking critically. To critically think about hidden assumptions is to question its authenticity. Hidden assumptions and stereotypes can be used in one statement. The author states that it is difficult to tell if the statements are hidden assumptions.
Hill claims the assumptions and stereotypes that Rose made were “calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me.” This is problematic because he assumed that Rose was attacking and insulting him, his family and Duke. Rose could have made the comments when reflecting back at that time of the Fab Five. It was how he felt then but not now. Hill should have gotten a clue that Rose was going to say something that he felt bad for after getting a letter of apology from him.
Caresse Fong
From the reading, Mayfield define hidden assumption based on stereotype. An example would be an expectation of personality how a male or female should behave. When I was young, when my mother were to pick me a color shirt, she would always give me the blue color over pink. She said the color blue is for boys and pink is for girls. Such color can determine one-self identity without evident.
The stereotype that Rose made from the article was directing stated that Hill who was playing for the Duke was part of "Uncle Tom"."Uncle Tom" is referred to someone who is black but act like a white man. It is an insult to Hill and his team mate who played for the Duke because it seem as if they were degrading their culture or race.
Hey David, good post and good example made from your writing. I never heard the "If your friend is Japanese, she must be moody". I can understand from your post how stereotype is develop basing on people assumption without evident. It seems to be a trend where everyone at some point in their life have done it before. I used to think that stereotype is only based on race but after I read Mayfield reading, it seems to expand to all categories.
I agree with your comment that hidden assumptions are based on people's own judgement. It is the opinion you form before getting to know them. This opinion is foormed from your past experiences.
Caresse Fong
Hi Kailin:
Thank you for the acknowledgment. I appreciate it! Have a nice weekend!
Francisco,
I like your explanation about stereotypes. It’s something that we assume to be true, which usually comes without critical testing. It seems that people so often make stereotypical assumption unconsciously.
In your second, you state the assumptions that Hill and Rose made, respectively, it’s quite clear.
Thank You Ms. Wanzo,
I believe like what we discuss in class, that we need to determine whether it is opinion or fact. Society can avoid assumptions by not make many judgment through experience or from sources that society has adapted from the past to present. Society can avoid the stereotypes that was created and the experience people have, so it is best to have them learn more and reflect upon that stereotype to the reality of what helps solve the case of their assumptions.
Hidden assumption: statements or believes are accepted or believed without proven. People will accept the statement or believe by their opinions or heard, and then apply to their believe and life. Stereotypes are hasty generalizations about life that are assumed to be true and are placed in a mental file for further use.
Hill claims Rose made that Duke recruited only black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.”
The problematic is Rose is calling all black in Duke “Uncle Toms,” and, to some degree, disrespects their parents for their education, work ethic and commitments to each other and to Hill him. After Hill complains about his statement, Rose changes to the meaning to black from two-parent, middle-class families.
The assumptions that Hill made are black people should be respect with their backgrounds, and many of them are having good education and ethic believes even though they are from single parents. Black students from Duke are proud of their current team, and their family just like Hill. Many Duke students have won the championships against Fab Five. Hill hopes that people should not judge people by how they looks but instead by how they have achieved and create a better icon or lives to other black people by what they have learn and experienced.
According to Mayfield stereotypes are hasty generalizations that are assumed to be true so they are stored into a person’s mind for the future. Stereotypes are the opinions that people form from the environment they were born into. If we believe hidden assumptions then we are not thinking critically. To critically think about hidden assumptions is to question its authenticity. Hidden assumptions and stereotypes can be used in one statement. The author states that it is difficult to tell if the statements are hidden assumptions.
Hill claims the assumptions and stereotypes that Rose made were “calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me.” This is problematic because he assumed that Rose was attacking and insulting him, his family and Duke. Rose could have made the comments when reflecting back at that time of the Fab Five. It was how he felt then but not now. Hill should have gotten a clue that Rose was going to say something that he felt bad for after getting a letter of apology from him.
Caresse Fong
Hi Tony,
In your response, you used your own experience to express your opinion about hidden assumption. You stated that your mother always chose the blue color over pink when she picked a shirt for you. I agree with you. In people’s common sense, most of them would consider that girl like red or pink color and boy would choose green or blue color. Moreover, when they buy toys to the kids, they also make hidden assumptions. They would buy cars for boys and buy flowers for girls.
Hi Phu (Tony) Luong,
you have given a good example of Stereotype and I also consider what color to distinquist between girls and boys.
Hill are rights about Rose since there are still racist occurs nowadays and it would take long time to make the equal lives among many other races and genders.
The assumptions and stereotypes that Mr. Hill entitlements Mr. Rose made. The assumptions about Hills parents are simply humiliating and degrading to the family. The fact that they people who grew up with both parents and are of color simply doesn’t make them less. Rather, than acknowledging that the individual has both parents and is a minority has a huge impact in the individual. Not everyone has the opportunity have both parents upon their lives. Although, they were middle class they still had the desire to have a successful life and the desire to achieve for more. A great example is the gift that was made from his father to him.
Hi David Nguyen,
I like the way you explain hidden assumptions, “It is an idea or perception that may ring true to a person from past experiences or emotion.” I think it is like your own judgment, the knowledge from what you learn to think that is true. It is like free thinking. Thank you!
In the text, on page 145, Mayfield define hidden assumptions are base on what someone has to believe in order to come to the conclusion. Stereotypes are the form of hidden assumptions and are hasty generalization about life that are assumed to be true and are placed in a mental file for further use. For example, Mayfield use the example he is a good candidate for mayor; he looks sincere. Mayfield is making hidden assumption that a person who is candidate for mayor is an honest person, so he looks sincere.
The assumptions and stereotypes that Hill claims Rose made he called all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms.” This was an insult to Hill and his teammates because they all have a great black tradition, and they have the parents made numerous sacrifices for their children to have a good education. Hill came from a family cherish the education and has a good education. This is the problematic that someone at Fab Five should know before they make the conclusion to call all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms.” Hill makes assumption by saying “At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way.” He also makes assumption that “We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them.” He wants to make sacrifices for his children to have a good education like his parents make for him and this is their great black tradition.
Hello Andrew,
I like your example “Given students a failing grade will damage their self-confidence. Therefore, we should not fail students.” Because it is so true for some case. I agree with you about the professors or the instructors should not damage students’ self-confidence.
Hi Jenn,
I agree with your comments about stereotypes and hidden assumptions. I like when you say, “ we tend to file things too quickly, without looking at the whole picture.” I feel that this is very true. People often do this without even realizing it.
Hi Tony, I really like how you use your own experience to explain the hidden assumption. I also agree with you that color can determine one-self identify without evident. As you mention early in your post that your mother always buy the blue color shirts for you, I have the same experience as you. When I went to shopping with my mom, she always buy cold color shirt for me such as grey, black or white. She never buys the pink color shirt for me; because she thinks pink is only for children.
In the section “Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning”, Mayfield mainly describes her opinion about hidden assumptions and stereotypes. She points out that stereotype refer to a fixed idea about a particular type of person or thing. And she states that hidden assumptions are related to these fixed ideas which are based on people’s experience and knowledge. Mayfield uses three good examples to show us how to identify hidden assumptions. One of the statements states that “If you love her, you’ll give her diamonds”. Most people believe diamonds represent eternal love because of the successful promotion from diamond industry. Therefore, man may assumption that he should buy a diamond to express his love to a girl.
In the article, “Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose,” Hill claims that Rose made some assumptions and stereotypes. For example, Jalen comments that “black players at Duke were ‘Uncle Toms’. Jalen’s opinion about ‘Uncle Toms’ is blacks who have two-parent and from middle-class families. However, stereotype of ‘Uncle Toms’ has derogatory meaning for a black person. Hill is unhappy with Rose’s comment. Hill quotes from his mother and states that “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.” It is important to understand the common sense. Hill assumes that “those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them.”
In the text on P145, Mayfield states that hidden assumptions are made when people’s statements include unspoken and unproven ideas. In other words, they don’t think critically and make assumptions without evidences or valid reasons. By stereotypes, she means that people point out their views that are not proofed to be true and already saved in their minds. This really affects them on thinking and reasoning. In addition, stereotypes is one kind of hidden assumption.
In the article, the assumptions and stereotypes made by Rose is that “duck recruited only black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms”. In addition, Rose called Grant Hill “Uncle Toms” because he is a black player at Duke. This statement is considered as stereotypes since Rose just gives his idea according to what he has already in his mind. Furthermore, Hill makes a hidden assumption when he says that all of his black teammates at Duke contribute to their tradition of excellence on the court as black Americans. This is because he makes the statement without giving proven ideas and thinks that all of his black teammates can win or play well depending on their tradition of excellence.
Mayfield means by hidden assumptions that people will assume things or have an idea from their own opinion without seeking for the true. This is when stereotypes comes into play because people would assume the rumor is true which cause them to put it in a mental file for further use.
The assumptions and stereotypes that Hill claims Rose made that all black players at Duke are "Uncle Tom." Hill felt insulted because Rose disrespect his family. It should not matter if children of color grew up with both of their parents and middle or low class. No one should be place in a box base on their own opinion without knowing the facts.
Hi Linh Vi,
I agree with every thing you said about hidden assumption and stereotypes.
Hello, Xiaoying
The way you explain the meaning of Hidden assumptions and Stereotypes is clear and great. The example you provide from the text makes me think more about what hidden assumption means. “If you love her, you’ll give her diamonds.” This example actually is an advertising slogan made people accept many assumptions like if you don’t buy her diamonds, it means that you don’t love her and giving diamonds to women as a gifts is a way to proof their worth.
Thank you!!
After reading the text about hidden assumptions I feel that assumptions are based on stereotypes. Stereotypes are general assumptions used to generalize a group of people.
In the article Rose made some serious stereotypes and assumptions. One being that Duke University only recruited African American players that they considered to be Uncle Toms. Another assumption was made by Grant Hill that Jalen was referring to blacks from two-parent, households who were educated and middle class. This is problematic because Jalen is referring to all players as a group instead of speaking about individual behavior.
In the article “Identifying Hidden Assumption in Reasoning” by Mayfield, she explains what hidden assumptions and stereotypes are. First, she explains that hidden assumptions are what people assume something to be true and draw to the conclusion without think in a critical way. Second, she explains stereotypes are assumptions that people make about certain group of people, places or things based on observations and assume that all of them are the same, whether it really applies to them or not.
In Grant Hill’s response to Jalen Rose, He claims Rose made assumptions about all black Duke Players as “Uncle Toms”. Hill feels this word not only an insult for him and other Duke players, also disparaging his parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other. Moreover, Hill also makes a value assumption in his response to Rose. For example, “we aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them” everybody is tries they better to provide a better education for their children. It is not only African American, but all other races too.
According to Mayfield she stated, "hidden assumptions exert a powerful effect on our reasoning; however identifying them is not always easy." I think Mayfield is making a point that people are easily to make an assumption out of anything and that they are easily to fall in the category of hidden assumptions. Another thing is that we make an assumption out of things that we don't even notice. For example, some of the things we see or hear on the media, can make us jump to a conclusion which is a hidden assumption.
Stereotype is two words. If you break down stereotype the words are 'stereo' and 'type'. Let's define stereo; a stereo is something that is being played over and over. Type is something that is written up. Stereo is something that we listen to over and over in our heads and it is being typed in our memories which lead us to make stereotypes. We hear stereotypes over and over all the time which makes people act a certain way because it's mentally played over all the time.
In the article by Hill Grant he claimed stated, "It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me." I felt like this was problematic because his friend should not have made an assumption about his family which he does not know anything about his family. Grant Hill's family fought hard to make sure that he will receive a great education.
On the page 145, “identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning” , Mayfield clearly explain to us what is hidden assumption and she offers a few great examples of hidden assumption to us. First of all, Mayfield believe that hidden assumptions are already in our mind, so we don’t need to deely think about it. it really depend on their experience to find out the hidden assumption. Then, Mayfield explain what is stereitypes that are assumed to be ture.Mayfield offer a great example to us,which is “ he is a good candidate for mayor; he looks sincere” people think a good candidate should be sincere. However, if the guy does not look like sincere, he would not be a good candidate.
In the article” Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose”. Hill had made some assumption in the article. First, he said that “calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me.” They called Hill and his team mates “ Uncle Toms” because they are black. Also they disparaging Hill’s parents for their education. It really hurted and insulted Hill and his family.these are hidden assumptions.
HI, Andrew, I really like your explanation of hidden assumption and strongly agree with your idea. your explanation is clear. Also, you offer another great example of hidden assumption for us. It is really nice. I totally agree with that “Given students a failing grade will damage their self-confidence. Therefore, we should not fail students.” This sentence shows a hidden assumption that we should not damage students’ self-confidence.” It is totally ture. If you get fail from the class, it will affect our self-confidence. Thank you for you sharing.
I like your explanation on the concept of hidden stereotypical assumption; you use the examples of Mayfield and explain clearly in your word, it is easy to understand in this way. Also, I like the example “Given students a failing grade will damage their self-confidence. Therefore, we should not fail students.” It is so true that sometimes a bad grade can buffet students a lot.
If you get fail from the class, it will affect our self-confidence. I got this example when I was suffering some definition of hidden assumption and value assumption. At that time, i think it is an interesting example, and I really want to make contact with all of my classmates.
Thank you, everyone.
In the reading “Identifying Hidden Assumptions in Reasoning” by Mayfield, she explains what are the meaning of hidden assumptions and stereotypes. First, hidden assumptions are statements or believe that is based on people’s opinion or believed without any evidence. Then, she states stereotypes are hasty generalizations about life that are assumed to be true and are placed in a mental file for further use. It means stereotypes are the quick assumption about life that people think it is true based on what they known. Mayfield gives some examples about the hidden stereotypical assumption to explain more about the actual meaning. One of the examples is the gift of diamonds. “If you love her, you’ll give her diamonds.” People believe that diamonds are the perfect symbol of love, but the sentence assumes that men who don’t give women diamonds don’t love them. In the article “Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose”, the assumptions that Hill claims Rose made that Duke recruited only black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.” The problematic is that Rose is calling all black players “Uncle Toms” in Duke and it disrespects to their parents of their education, work ethic and commitments. Hill makes many assumptions such as “At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a culture phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way.” Hill is making assumption of the Fab Five that is his first feeling and thinking without any examination.
I agree with you that black people should be respect because the world always has good and bad. We can't judge anyone by their look or because they are black, yellow or white. There are always good people and bad people around.
On page 145 Mayfield talks about hidden assumptions and stereotypes. According to Mayfield hidden assumptions are the statements we believe are true and contain unproven or unspoken ideas. Stereotypes are generalizations that we make based on our experiences. Mayfield points out that hidden assumption contains stereotypes. She gives an example about sincerity. “He is a good candidate for mayor; he looks sincere.” This claim assumes that people who look sincere are honest and because of it they can be a candidate for mayor. In the article, “Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose” Rose stereotypes black men by saying that Duke only recruited black players he considered to be “uncle Toms”. Moreover, Rose makes assumptions about hill’s parent’s education. It is problematic because Rose is using a derogatory term to describe someone that belong to his same race.
I agree with you. I think that Rose use disrespectful words when he makes reference to Hill’s family and the Duke players. I like Mr. Hill response to Rose. He points out that he is proud of his family and his legacy of black Americans.
Hidden assumptions are ideas that people assume something to be based on self-experience and knowledge about the object. Stereotypes are beliefs that a particular type of thing is commonly defined, usually not true. Usually, hidden assumption happened because of stereotypes we known. For example, when a car accident happened, most of people would think the driver is an Asian. This hidden assumption happened because of the stereotype of “Asian doesn’t know how to drive.”
The assumptions and stereotypes that Hill claims Rose made are the stereotyped term of “Uncle Tom”, which means a black person who behave in a powerless and weak manner to white people. It is problematic because “Uncle Tom” is a hidden assumption Rose made that is not appropriate and is unfair and untrue to Duke. Hill claims that people should not categorize black people because of the stereotype. People should look at their achievement, not their color.
Mayfield stated, "hidden assumptions exert a powerful effect on our reasoning; however, identifying them is not always easy." I think what she meant is that people are easily to make an assumption out of anything without any notice of it. We are too use to making assumptions that it has become a daily thing for us. Stereotype is two words being put together which is 'stereo' and 'type'. A stereo is something being played over and over. Type is something being written up. Stereo being played over and over, we hear it all the time in our heads and it's being typed up in our heads which make us stereotype on others.
Hidden assumption: is what people believe, if they think it’ true so it’s true without proven or evident. Stereotype is formulaic conception, the quick assumption that people think is true mentally. The assumptions and stereotypes that Hill claims Rose made he called all black players “a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” because they are black and disparaging the parent’s education. Rose just judge the other people by what stated in his mind.
In Grant Hill's article he stated, "It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me." I felt like that was an assumption his friend made about him and his family. I think it was problematic because his friend don't even know the struggles his family went through just to make sure he got a great education.
Hi Francisco,
I like your saying of "Seek the truth and use some common sense before you labeling some one!" I don't like people make statement or judgment because of stereotypes. For example, Asian people get worse service in a restaurant, because others think that they give less tips for the services. In fact, the services provider get less tips because of their unqualified service not because the customer is an "Asian".
In Mayfield’s article, she identifies hidden assumptions in reasoning. Hidden assumptions are based on one’s judgments, and it doesn’t include any evidence or deeply thinking. Then, Mayfield identifies what stereotypes are. Stereotypes are the judgment of people that quickly decision about life. Also, stereotypes are made by the knowledge that one’s known. For these two concepts, Mayfield gives some examples to clarify these two explanations. First of all, she said people believe that diamonds represent love; it assumes that someone doesn’t give a diamond to one’s lover means it doesn’t symbolize love. And, this example explains those two concepts.
In another article, Rose called Grant Hill “Uncle Toms”, because he is a black player at Duke. Rose gives his idea according to what he has already in his mind. Moreover, Grant Hill makes a hidden assumption that all of his black teammates at Duke contribute to their tradition of excellence on the court as black Americans. He makes this statement without giving proven ideas.
According to Mayfield, stereotype is “hasty generalization about life that is assumed to be true and is placed in a mental file for further use”. And, hidden assumptions “exert a powerful effect on our reasoning”. Stereotype is judgment based on how the person looks. This is a kind of hidden assumption.
In the story, Jalen Rose stereotyped black players as “Uncle Tom”. This is a comments based on what Jalen know. Therefore, this is a stereotype.
Hi,
According to your respone, you said "It is an idea or perception that may ring true to a person from past experiences or emotion." I totally agree with your statement. The knowledge that we learn always affect our mind, and lead us to believe that we are true. And that is just waht hidden assumption is.
Thank you.
I agree on what you said. Making judgement based on stereotype should not be tolerated. Most people look down on Asians as they usually don't speak fluent English as the others do. However, this will make people afraid of speaking English. Practice makes perfect. Stereotyping people will only stop people from improving.
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